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Karmapa is Karmapa

Visit the linked site in this line and scroll down to see Chatral Urgyen Rinpoche (b. 1913,) of P'harping, Nepal.  Almost 100 years old, he is a yogi who has seen and understood many things, and it is widely known that he spoke openly to his own (Nyingmapa) communities saying that it would be not be correct to adopt a "wait-and-see" attitude since there was no doubt as to the fact of Urgyen Thrinley Dorje's incarnation as 17th Gyalwa Karmapa.

Visit Ocean of Merit to see the remarkable physical resemblance between the 16th Karmapa as a youth, and the 17th Karmapa. (Chinese text.

Signs and Portents  

Pratibha Chauhan, in India's The Tribune reported:

"On the day of his birth on June 26, 1985, the villagers reported hearing the sound of conch shells for an hour, followed by another musical sound, the source of which could not be found.  Perhaps, the most dramatic of the many signs were the three suns, which shone in the sky.  Seen by all present, they were of the same size and appeared in a row.  Over the middle sun, arched a rainbow each end of which dissolved suns on the sides.

This strange phenomenon was reported throughout eastern Tibet, as if clearly signified the arrival of a reincarnate.  After seeking the blessing and help of many Lamas, Karma Dhondup and his wife Loga were blessed with this boy. As promised by the parents, the boy was taken to the Kalek monastery, and installed as a tulku, though he was not given a name.  Khatza Tapa, a local wise man proficient in mirror medicine, made a prediction when he saw a conch shell spiralling clockwise: "The boy will greatly benefit beings. When he is eight years old everything will be clear, but until then no one can confirm who he is".

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